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| Chris Kirkman (l.) of Dice Hate Me Games is introduced to Brew Crafters for the first time by designer Ben
 Rosset at UnPub 3 in January, 2013
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On 
Dice Tower News Episode 180, I included a severely edited version of an interview with designer 
Ben Rosset and publisher 
Chris Kirkman of 
Dice Hate Me Games to talk about their current Kickstarter project, 
Brew Crafters.  But I didn't want anyone to miss out on the rich experience I had speaking with these two enthusiasts just because of the time constraints of a news podcast.  So I have posted the 
entire interview on boardgamegeek so that everyone can hear Ben describe the experience that inspired him to design 
Brew Crafters in the first place.  Also not to be missed is Chris waxing on the passion that he brings to every game that Dice Hate Me Games publishes.  I always enjoy every minute I spend with these guys, and I hope you do, too.
[Update:  I'd previously tried to post the interview here on this page, but due to technical difficulties, I am just including a link to the 
interview posted on boardgamegeek instead.]